Comments for Bleeding Blue and Teal http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com a website dedicated to all thing Seattle Mariners: rumors, speculation, analysis, community. Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:10:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 Comment on I Love You, Brandon Morrow by drivindave http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/i-love-you-brandon-morrow/#comment-3467 drivindave Sat, 06 Sep 2008 06:05:39 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1016#comment-3467 wow! that was the most fun I think I've had watching an M's game in awhile. What a complete plus to our team if Morrow could be somewhat near the Felix category in the future we actually could have a decent rotation come next year. wow! that was the most fun I think I’ve had watching an M’s game in awhile. What a complete plus to our team if Morrow could be somewhat near the Felix category in the future we actually could have a decent rotation come next year.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by raffish http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3466 raffish Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:45:32 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3466 Billy Beane is building the perfect beast in Oakland. The A's have been down for but a few years since their Hudson, Mulder, Zito hayday. Poor Billy doesn't have the spending resources that Bavasi did, so he's in the unenviable position of having to move successful players for youth until it all comes together. It might be just around the corner. Fortunately for Ms fans, we get to spend the dough once our foundation is constructed. I wish we could get Billy Beane. Billy Beane is building the perfect beast in Oakland. The A’s have been down for but a few years since their Hudson, Mulder, Zito hayday. Poor Billy doesn’t have the spending resources that Bavasi did, so he’s in the unenviable position of having to move successful players for youth until it all comes together. It might be just around the corner.

Fortunately for Ms fans, we get to spend the dough once our foundation is constructed. I wish we could get Billy Beane.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Dustin Shires http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3465 Dustin Shires Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:40:55 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3465 The Oakland A's never completely rebuilding... Every other year or so, they sell their older players at high values and receive young players. Once those young players are 3 years or more experienced in the MLB (or so) they repeat the process. There is never a complete rebuild like the one we're talking about. The Rays, I'll buy that. They have a good ownership though... The Oakland A’s never completely rebuilding… Every other year or so, they sell their older players at high values and receive young players. Once those young players are 3 years or more experienced in the MLB (or so) they repeat the process. There is never a complete rebuild like the one we’re talking about.

The Rays, I’ll buy that. They have a good ownership though…

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Jon Shields http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3464 Jon Shields Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:19:53 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3464 ^Speaking of which, the GM responsible for the Cleveland Indians successful rebuild, John Hart, is interested in the job and should be getting an interview with the team. ^Speaking of which, the GM responsible for the Cleveland Indians successful rebuild, John Hart, is interested in the job and should be getting an interview with the team.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Rob T. http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3463 Rob T. Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:10:21 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3463 The Indians also had a complete successful rebuild. They overhauled their whole team. The Indians also had a complete successful rebuild. They overhauled their whole team.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Jon Shields http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3462 Jon Shields Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:38:48 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3462 <blockquote>I am sick of the word rebuilding. In all honesty, what team has completely rebuilt, bottom up, and been successful? Find me an example, because most teams throw out the world “rebuild”, but never fully delve into the philosophy.</blockquote> The A's have had various successful rebuilding phases in recent years, and the Rays have done a great job rebuilding since the 2005 season. Those are the two teams that jump immediately to mind for me.

I am sick of the word rebuilding. In all honesty, what team has completely rebuilt, bottom up, and been successful? Find me an example, because most teams throw out the world “rebuild”, but never fully delve into the philosophy.

The A’s have had various successful rebuilding phases in recent years, and the Rays have done a great job rebuilding since the 2005 season. Those are the two teams that jump immediately to mind for me.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by raffish http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3461 raffish Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:06:46 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3461 I, for one, am willing to endure a legitimate rebuilding phase. We don't have a team cohesive enough to contend even if we sign two or three free agents. We need to make sacrifices, such as: 1. Trade any and all players over age 26 over the next two years. This includes Ichiro, Putz, Beltre, Bedard, maybe even Jose Lopez. Turn these players into as many blue chip prospects as possible. 2. Let the kids play, starting in 2010. As long as they're ready, Tui, Saunders, Balentin, Halman... get em in there. 3. Draft early and often. Since we'll have no veteran presence, we'll surely stink, (at least we'll do it cheaply!). This should equate to top five draft picks, maybe a few #1 picks. 4. Plan on contending as early as 2012, but more realistically in 2013. With a foundation of young talent in the farm system and at the major league level, the Mariners should be age 29 and under and ready to rock and roll. Guys like Truinfel, Aumont, Pineda, Ramirez, Tui, Saunders, Halman, Clement, Balentin, Moore and company should be contributing, as well as all the players we'll acquire through trades and drafting. THEN we sign legitimate free agents to fill holes. I, for one, am willing to endure a legitimate rebuilding phase. We don’t have a team cohesive enough to contend even if we sign two or three free agents. We need to make sacrifices, such as:

1. Trade any and all players over age 26 over the next two years. This includes Ichiro, Putz, Beltre, Bedard, maybe even Jose Lopez. Turn these players into as many blue chip prospects as possible.

2. Let the kids play, starting in 2010. As long as they’re ready, Tui, Saunders, Balentin, Halman… get em in there.

3. Draft early and often. Since we’ll have no veteran presence, we’ll surely stink, (at least we’ll do it cheaply!). This should equate to top five draft picks, maybe a few #1 picks.

4. Plan on contending as early as 2012, but more realistically in 2013. With a foundation of young talent in the farm system and at the major league level, the Mariners should be age 29 and under and ready to rock and roll.

Guys like Truinfel, Aumont, Pineda, Ramirez, Tui, Saunders, Halman, Clement, Balentin, Moore and company should be contributing, as well as all the players we’ll acquire through trades and drafting.

THEN we sign legitimate free agents to fill holes.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Dustin Shires http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3460 Dustin Shires Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:27:43 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3460 Cut payroll and sign GOOD free agents to money are two separate ideas. If you are going to go longterm on a guy, at least spend money on the right guy. Furcal/Teixeira/even Sabathia all qualify in that area. I am sick of the word rebuilding. In all honesty, what team has completely rebuilt, bottom up, and been successful? Find me an example, because most teams throw out the world "rebuild", but never fully delve into the philosophy. Cut payroll and sign GOOD free agents to money are two separate ideas. If you are going to go longterm on a guy, at least spend money on the right guy. Furcal/Teixeira/even Sabathia all qualify in that area.

I am sick of the word rebuilding. In all honesty, what team has completely rebuilt, bottom up, and been successful? Find me an example, because most teams throw out the world “rebuild”, but never fully delve into the philosophy.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Jon Shields http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3459 Jon Shields Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:28:23 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3459 That's the whole problem. It would be great to grap up youngish stars on long contracts to fill the spots that the oranization is weakest in (1B - Teixiera, SS - Furcal) and rebuild from there in hopes of being ready to compete before their contracts expire, but how does Seattle draw them in? Seattle already has a hard time bringing in top-tier free agents while they were winning ballgames, so how are we supposed to bring in guys now that they're the worst team in the league? There is only one way that I can think of, and that is to outbid the competition. Not exactly the smartest way to rebuild and cut payroll, is it? That said, I still wouldn't be surprised if the organization puts out an offer to Teixiera, despite what Armstrong said. That’s the whole problem. It would be great to grap up youngish stars on long contracts to fill the spots that the oranization is weakest in (1B - Teixiera, SS - Furcal) and rebuild from there in hopes of being ready to compete before their contracts expire, but how does Seattle draw them in?

Seattle already has a hard time bringing in top-tier free agents while they were winning ballgames, so how are we supposed to bring in guys now that they’re the worst team in the league? There is only one way that I can think of, and that is to outbid the competition. Not exactly the smartest way to rebuild and cut payroll, is it?

That said, I still wouldn’t be surprised if the organization puts out an offer to Teixiera, despite what Armstrong said.

]]> Comment on Rebuilding? [Updated] by Jon Shields http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/09-2008/rebuilding/#comment-3458 Jon Shields Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:27:11 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1013#comment-3458 That's the whole problem. It would be great to grap up youngish stars on long contracts to fill the spots that the oranization is weakest in (1B - Teixiera, SS - Furcal) and rebuild from there in hopes of being ready to compete before their contracts expire, but how does Seattle draw them in? Seattle already has a hard time bringing in top-tier free agents while they were winning ballgames, so how are we supposed to bring in guys now that they're the worst team in the league? There is only one way that I can think of, and that is to outbid the competition. Not exactly the smartest way to rebuild and cut payroll, is it? That’s the whole problem. It would be great to grap up youngish stars on long contracts to fill the spots that the oranization is weakest in (1B - Teixiera, SS - Furcal) and rebuild from there in hopes of being ready to compete before their contracts expire, but how does Seattle draw them in?

Seattle already has a hard time bringing in top-tier free agents while they were winning ballgames, so how are we supposed to bring in guys now that they’re the worst team in the league? There is only one way that I can think of, and that is to outbid the competition. Not exactly the smartest way to rebuild and cut payroll, is it?

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